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so i got briefly suspended on here as someone tried to change my password, they didn't put much thought into it - maybe a trial run on your own account could have made you realize you also need access to the users email to verify the change.

i think i know who it was, but have no evidence, just a suspicion. not sure what you hoped to achieve - so go drink some more coke-a-cola while watching movies, get it?
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I believe I might know as well if you get what I mean.

I will investigate, but this whole forum situation will slowly lead to a finalizing decision.

The forum is running on legacy code I cannot support anymore. I have plans on rebuilding it, but they will not come to fruition any time soon. There's not much activity as well, considering 3D Rad's situation.

My only option is to shut down the forum to prevent any data being leaked because of a possible security exploit I'm not keeping track of.

I have no official dates on a shutdown. It's just a very big possibility.
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if you do shut it down, could you not just re-activate the old pro-boards version?

even though it too will fizzle out eventually, it's free, and all code/updates are done by them, so less work and just needs a moderator which if you don't want to do, i think tinsoldier offered to take over these forums once.
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why not just move the forum to discord..
While not a forum, may be a quick and easy solution.
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@thelurker I did offer/tried at one point, but that was the original 3drad forum, not here.
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I'm not saying no, but not saying yes either ....
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@thelurker, we could turn on the old pro-boards version. However, very unjustified, considering this forum's activity. It's obvious 3D Rad is barely used.

@tinsoldier, I would be in favor of the Discord option (you can even be a guest in Discord), simply because the amount of remaining people that still use 3D Rad does not justify an entire forum.

I would even recommend 3D Rad Space's server (Nicusor's one) for his version of 3D Rad. It has a couple of channels for the legacy 3D Rad. I honestly don't see another viable option (viable being the key word).

If we're talking about content preservation, that's another thing. One of them is to crawl the entire forum. The next one is to create a simplified version without posting capabilities. The third one is to export it to a different forum software, which still poses some challenges. The free version of ProBoards does not offer data import.

I am still in the process of deciding. I am not looking for a reckless decision, even though leaving this forum work as it is right now is enough of a reckless decision.
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well, https://3dradspace.com/ is not a 'viable' option, as for me, it gets error 'Secure Connection Failed, Error code: SSL_ERROR_INTERNAL_ERROR_ALERT' indicates it's code is also outdated, hence why pro-boards is a better option to counter that.

as for discord, it's more suited to chats rather than page long technical discussions such as i have had here, if you look at this site and pro-boards they both have more forum activity than chats so a forum is even more justified than a chat platform.

of course, there may only be a few major posts a year, if that, but at least the few people still using 3drad have somewhere to go, and the moderator would have very little work to maintain it.
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@thelurker try this link http://3dradspace.com/Forum/index.php
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discord, Discord, DISCORD... did i mention discord...
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well that link works, but there's no 'channels for the legacy 3D Rad' as mentioned, and much less activity than here which is odd as it has over 1400 users vs 127 here.
and the problem with discord is no one will find it, does not even show up on all 4 pages of a google '3drad discord' search [let alone just '3drad'] - while this site and pro-boards are on page 1.

even 5yrs after shutdown, https://3drad.boards.net/forum still has a lot of browsing activity:
Users Online in the Last 24 Hours: 56 Guests / Most Users Online: 110 (Apr 20, 2021 at 11:40pm)

that's actually 5x higher than this site today [11 users]
if the discord has worse stats than those it will die even faster...
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3dradspace on discord has a couple 3drad areas setup, sooo https://discord.gg/tPFH5rRJNN
cant say how much traffic it gets though.
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already tried that from proboards link: '404 page not found' after doing the captcha thing, whether as guest or old discord account, or otherwise get 'invalid invite' even before that stage. apparently 17 users online - is 3dradspace really that popular or users just staying logged in [perhaps to multiple other discord groups] without any activity?

my firefox is only 2 months old, so not gonna update it just for 1 site, nor will i install the discord app. that private chat group is not an accessible site at all, if someone does a google search for say '3drad steering wheel support' it will not show up, even if such a subject was on the discord, that makes it useless for new user discovery, not that there'll be many...
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Long time since I posted something here. I had trouble with the forum since my password was on a password manager that got deleted when I switched to Linux Mint for a little while. We can all agree ClassDev is unfortunately an other victim to software degradation, just like our beloved 3D Rad v722 is.



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well, https://3dradspace.com/ is not a 'viable' option, as for me, it gets error 'Secure Connection Failed, Error code: SSL_ERROR_INTERNAL_ERROR_ALERT' indicates it's code is also outdated, hence why pro-boards is a better option to counter that.


I'm using Simple Machines Forum for the forum I'm hosting. Indeed the SSL certification is broken and registration was (it still is?) broken.

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than here which is odd as it has over 1400 users vs 127 here.


Yeah, I hate to say that but 3DRadSpace's forum is under continuous attacks from spambots. Most likely their purpose is runining the SEO statistics and blacklisting my forum. (My forum was blacklisted twice because of this).

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even 5yrs after shutdown, https://3drad.boards.net/forum still has a lot of browsing activity:
Users Online in the Last 24 Hours: 56 Guests / Most Users Online: 110 (Apr 20, 2021 at 11:40pm)


Do note that these can be spiderbots. Not sure how many of them can be, but take that in consideration.

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apparently 17 users online - is 3dradspace really that popular or users just staying logged in


3DRadSpace's Discord server has ~10 max active members. The rest of them can be lurkers and dead accounts.



Personally, I'd choose the forum because it has more content in it, and because there's members already registered in it. Also because of the easier moderation, and because there are no costs related to hosting. I wouldn't choose the forum because there are users that deleted their accounts after it was closed.

I woudn't choose 3DRadSpace's Discord server for "hosting" 3D Rad v722 content since you can't google Discord chat messages. But choosing the Discord server may be a better option from the point of activity.

For the 3DRadSpace's forums, I'll take a look to see what I can do with it. But I think 3DRadSpace's forum is only going to be for 3DRadSpace -> no channels for 3D Rad v722.

I might even switch the forum software from SMF to Discourse ( https://www.discourse.org/ )? Or even just use GitHub's Discussions feature (https://docs.github.com/en/discussions). But that risks losing few threads that TinSoldier and I created.

I'm leaning towards reopening the old forum (3D Rad Boards). But I also want to hear your thoughts...


Update (11:29 PM 8/23/2022, GMT +2) I fixed 3DRadSpace's forum SSL certificate!
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well, only  https://3dradspace.com SSL was broken, not the SMF forum itself, so no need to switch forum hosts.

and yeh, i thought 50-100 daily users on pro-boards was excessive, if not bots, there may be teachers getting their students to use 3drad to make games, assuming each pc has it's own dynamic ip otherwise they would be all one user on the same network?  the only other thing i can put it down to, is if people search '3drad' they will click on 3drad.boards.net rather than classdev.net.

but by all means bring back the old forum if this one closes, then you will find out who 'thelurker' is if you haven't figured it out already...
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there may be teachers getting their students to use 3drad to make games, assuming each pc has it's own dynamic ip otherwise they would be all one user on the same network.

The funniest, most ironic, and delusional statement I've read on this forum.

First, school PC-s are usually connected through hubs/switches/routers, therefore the outbound IP is the same. Who would pay for 10 IP addresses, considering they're also very limited nowadays. Second, 3D Rad is unsupported for a decade already. I'd be worried if this is still being taught in school.

And I probably know who you are. It can only be a couple of 3D Rad hardcore people - xitzsgx or indiedev. One of them even had issues with... ughm... updating to the latest browser version. Prove me wrong please.
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why not just move the forum to discord..
While not a forum, may be a quick and easy solution.
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@thelurker I did offer/tried at one point, but that was the original 3drad forum, not here.
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I'm not saying no, but not saying yes either ....


Discord actually has a forum like feature I'm seeing popping up in various servers, I guess it must be a community server thing but hey, that would be a good way to have our forum like content on
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Yes, but as said earlier, you can't google Discord threads.
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@power, yes i am indiedev, speaking of which - did you identify who tried to hack my account yet?
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I have conclusive, hard evidence of the "hacker". Ironically, it's @nicusorn5.

... ... not deliberately though...

Nicusor was trying to reset his password at around 2022-08-07 23:38:38 UTC. He failed the code 3 times and got banned... Except that every guest user got banned too.

The system is supposed to ban your IP if you enter the code incorrectly 3 times. But my ban check was not working correctly as I had no way of testing it at the time (I didn't have VPN-s and such).

In other words, no one hacked anything, and no one was attempting a targeted attack. You, @thelurker, were not targeted. It was just a glitch that affected everyone. I was banned too that day, and that's why I was not surprised by the creation of your thread.

I've made a pinned thread on this: https://classdev.net/page/thread/1OrVZj_L40lW8afi/explanation-of-the-massive-ban-on-aug-7th

Now with this out of the way, I kind of suspected you'd be indiedev for a while now, until you said "then you will find out who 'thelurker' is if you haven't figured it out already". Then I was pretty much sure. You didn't initially want to switch to classdev because: "The text was too big on your outdated browser."
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Ban that guys ( @nicusorn5 ) a$$  👀
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Oh Christ! Whoa! That was unexpected... 😅
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it wasn't just the big text, i mainly felt the new site did not offer much the old one didn't have, focused away from 3drad, and that some users of an already dwindling base would be lost during the transition.
probably a few casual users never migrated, but it is what it is...

also, apologies to the user on here i suspected of hacking my account, maybe had nothing to do with the coca-cola reference.
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focused away from 3drad

Of course, because 3D Rad was dying anyway. Who would make an ambitious project around something that's known to be over with on release?

maybe had nothing to do with the coca-cola reference

I got the reference, but it was not him. I specifically looked for that as well.
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when i started in 3drad, the official forum was still active, i'd rather abandon my project than start from scratch in a new engine, i'm too far invested in 3drad's pipeline.

and i think coca-cola was not the user i thought, possibly some other user that was deleted long ago.
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I forgot there was a user named "coca-cola"
- I didn't get the reference initially

Anyway the forum be like

(Meme stolen from 3DRadSpace's Discord server, credits to @zadalin )
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Art.                                             .
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